Flight modes

  • Hallo, I can' t understand how to use correctly flight modes. I explain you with 2 examples my troubles.

    1) I programmed my Quintus glider (4 ailerons and 2 flaps)with all functions: wing set for thermal and for speed, butterfly, etc.. I did all that without using flight modes. Probably I missed something.

    2) Aerobatic SU-31,3 flight modes: normal, 3D and extreme 3D. I have left aileron servo 1 and right aileron servo 6. I move both ailerons with a function (servo 1 and 6); In flight mode 3D I need to reduce a little movement of right aileron because it has more run than left one. I thought to change servo curve in this flight mode, but this change acts in all flight modes. I understood you could manage on each servo for each flight mode. The only thing I succeded is to have a different function curve for each flight mode. So, I don' t know how to set in the right way right aileron in flight mode 3D.

    These two questions to help me understanding better how to work with flight modes.

    Thank for help

  • Same problem here.. unable to understand how to configure Flight Modes. -I have a F3J glider and want to set it up as I get FM1. Start/Take off FM2. Normal FM3. Thermal 1 FM4. Thermal 2 FM5. Speed


    Not trying to highjack your thread here Luke7, just emphasize that a step by step explanation how to set up FM on gliders in English is dearly missed!!

  • To emphasize; I manage to designate switch to FM but when I start to edit control surfaces the basic settings get completely messed up. So where in the menu do you actually manipulate the control surfaces for each FM?

  • Dirk, unfortunately, it doesn't.


    The thing is that its no problem to assign a switch to a FM.. However, how do you go form there to adjust your control surfaces?? I get it to work.. "kinda".. I manage to assign a switch to "Normal" - "Thermal" - "Speed" - where all control surfaces is moving to a set position. But I think thats actually "cheating" as I in effect just assign several servo function to a switch and call it a FM..


    On a F3J / F5J glider you want the control surfaces to be set in certain positions in various phases and in each phase you what to activate and deactivate functions. I thought that that was the whole point with a FM?

    -When trying this, I experience that the basic set up get all messed up. If I use Singel or Global does not seem to have any affect in avoiding this.. (I think...)


    -To get this to work on a Core is harder than "splitting atoms" from the look of number of frustrated postings and the shear lack of a clear simple explanation how to do it!

  • ...there is no cheating if you work with you pre defined flight phases inside the function menu (Function setup single for the selected Function).


    I´ll do every different curve, straight offset line or what ever in the 4 Quadrant function curve editor, at least my advice.


    This can be seen in trhe video too.


    BR


    Dirk

  • We've done a few videos on flight modes in the link below... Nothing glider specific, but the basic principle applies across the board. Simply create the function and assign Flight Mode "Single" and select your control. Once changed from "Global" to "Single" the changes you make to that function setup only apply to the FM which you have currently selected with the switch.


    I always suggest to do a test setup in the radio without an actual model connected and play around with it, you can see the interaction of the channels by watching the servo monitor. Once you explore things a bit you'll find it is far simpler and less confining than other systems.


    https://powerbox-americas.com/blogs/want-to-know-how

  • Adam Strong -thanks. Will try this. I did suspect a Global/single mode issue.. but as I from time to time experience that settings are apparently “reset” when changing modes, I don’t think I have full confidence yet.


    You can change the Mode in Trim and in Setup.. are they the same setting? (Do you have to change them to the same in both places or is it only in Setting?)

  • Adam Strong - Still not quite there.. I may be a little dumb.. but still don´t get it. What is frustrating is that in the past I have managed to set up the glider to do what I want, but I basically mess around randomly for hours trying to set it up.... all values end up in a mess.. ( Tk7 I "cheat" as I have to set up a function switch and define the individual servo setting and assign the FM to the same switch so that the label on top of the screen tell me what "FM"/setting I am in... I.e got set up the flap and aileron in a desired camber)


    So as I see this, there is a "missing link" in the instruction videos: I set up the FM and assigned them to the desired switch(es), set the Mode to Single -> Hoerver, if I then go to the Function Tab and start to manipulate the servo setting to i.e set a desired camber, it will change the setting of the base set up!! Camber is where both ailerons and flap is in a i.e 10deg negative position - you cant get this done via trimming tab. If you like to manipulate individual servo function for a defined FM. But how is this done?

  • For the FlightModes the valueinput is in "Setup", not in "Servo"

    Is that Your problem?

    Hmm, was about to post an update. Tk7 - I think you're right.. -still need to test the latest set up on the model, but from looking at the ServoMonitor, thats seems to be the "link" I was missing.. :/

  • Argh, one issue..


    Going into Setup and adjust the values on the Aileron will move the aileron-surfaces in opposite directions.. I want to adjust them both up or down together with the flap... (I am adjusting the camber of the wing..). How do I do that?

  • Question:

    Both ailerons in wrong direction, then in "Setup" change rate from 100 to -100


    Only on aileron in wrong direction, then change in "Servo" the "Direct." from Rev to Norm or vice versa

  • Question:

    Both ailerons in wrong direction, then in "Setup" change rate from 100 to -100


    Only on aileron in wrong direction, then change in "Servo" the "Direct." from Rev to Norm or vice versa

    Tk7 thanks for you reply!

    -Its not exactly the direction of the aileron thats the issue: I like to change the center point of the aileron, so I change the camber of the wing. What I want to do is select i.e the "Termikk" FM switch, the flap and aileron will go negative 10deg (on both wings, the flap and aileron will move to downwards (-10deg)). If I select "Termikk 2" the flap/aileron move 15deg down. -Select FM Normal the wing clean up and flap and aileron goes back to 0.


    What didn´t work is Setup>Curve Editor and move the center point. Then one aileron moves down and the other equally up.

  • Hallo, in my mind with flight modes I was thinking to change for example aileron position to - 20 for landing. But, as you can see from images, I have - 20 in both flight conditions, and not only in landing one. Probably this is not the right way. Can you explain how to do this simple task in right way with some screen shots of you radio, thanks?