Posts by akb

    The decoders have been set to the original servo setup all the time. No changes there. The decoders are independent from the receivers or anything else that you plug them into. I think that this is first time Power Box has run into this type of installation with the decoders and it's beginning to look like the Igyro SRS should either be using all true Sbus servos with no decoders or use the Igryo 3E for installation of non Sbus servos.

    I have an all Futaba Sbus installation except for the servos. I am using all non Sbus JR servos. They are all connected to the Futaba SBD-1 decoders. Are these do you think presenting the problem for the Igyro to understand.

    Ok so I thought I was on the right direction. But I guess not.


    Had the servos of one wing half for the ailerons with 2- Jr 8511's plugged into the SBD-1 which is plugged into the 4 port hub that is plugged into the elevator output B of the Igyro. Same thing on the other wing half 2- Jr 8511's plugged into another SBD-1 which is plugged into the same 4 port hub as the other wing half which goes into the elevator output B of the Igyro.


    My 8711 rudder servo is plugged into another SBD-1 that is plugged into a different 4 port hub that is plugged into the rudder output of the Igyro. Into this same 4 port hub I have the two Jr 8611A's of the split elevators, plugged into another SBD-1 which again is in to the same 4 port hub as the rudder.


    So at this point all control functions seem to working properly, ailerons, rudder and elevators all working properly. I use the set up wizard and teach the settings of the Igyro, the switches the radio sticks and again everything seems to work all right. When I go to confirm the directions of the gyro inputs by moving the airframe into different attitudes, it doesn't seem that all the confirmations are working properly, as the right ailerons seem to correct when you dip the wing to the one side but not the other.


    Then a real weird thing seems to happen when I check the elevators and have the nose heading down, the elevators seem to go up, but when I point the nose up the elevators don't seem to point down and the one aileron servo seems to want to push down when that axis is not even being turned.


    When confirming the rudder directions with the gyro inputs this seemed to work fine. Just the ailerons and elevators have the funny things happening. This is where I wonder if when there is more than two servos plugged into the same SBD-1, is giving the Igyro the problems that I am having with it. The SBD-1 that the rudder is plugged into has only the one rudder servo plugged into it.


    I think that there is still something wrong with this set up that I am not understanding.


    Richard you said a few posts before, that the only serial output should be able to get, was out of rudder and elevator B. And that is true the only place I get any servos to work is out of these two ports. Why shouldn't I be able to use the other ports. What am I doing wrong why can't I get any or the other 3 outputs to work. If I turn the Dig output to off I thought that this would be for NON Sub servos, but I get nothing to work out of any of the outputs if I turn this off, even if I experiment with other spare NON Sbus servos.


    Maybe this unit is not working properly. Can I not use the Igyro SRS stand alone with out having to use any of the other power box units such as the Royal, Mercury or Champion to make it work with as an Sbus system. I don't think it was intended that way was it. I do see other installations that work on the forum, working with a Power box unit, but why. If I was going to do this I would just use the gyro that is internal to the Royal or the Mercury and forget about using the Igyro SRS.


    Could you please step me through all my connections and programing, I must be doing something wrong. Have lots of your equipment and have never had this much trouble getting it working. It's always been very good. Are the SBD-1s causing a problem in this. Have you had another customer that has had installation similar to mine with the multiple servos per aileron and using the SBD-1's. Is the only way of making this work is just with a Sbus servos.


    Please help.


    thanks

    AKB

    Yes Richard one thing that I neglected to say was that I do run dual battery packs. One battery goes directly to the receiver and the other one is connected two one of the 4 output hubs. Being a true proponent of battery management systems as I have told you of your various units I own, this installation does not give me a true backer or isolated system as one of the Power box units have. Totally agree with that but short of that it does give me a multiple sources of power though more than a single power supply would.


    Thanks

    Alan

    Hi Richard


    Thanks for your response. This aircraft as I said was existing and has many years and many flights on it. It was my first attempt at using a full SB system, excluding SB servos, hence the use of SBD-1s. In using the conventional SBUS wiring system of using hubs and a single output from the SBUS1 port of the 7008 receiver, all has worked fine so far. As opposed to other installations with SBUS I have used Royals, Mercurys and a Champion all SRS, this only used the Futaba wiring components of said hubs of three and four outputs.


    Servos that are used in this installation are 4-8511's for ailerons- 2- 8611A's for elevators and a single 8711 for rudder. Any other servos for throttle are plugged in direct to the receiver. Again these were installed all under the single-multiwire system of the SBUS cables. So if your saying I can put back my two-4 output hubs and have one routed to elevator B and one to Rudder on the Igyro, this really shouldn't change the power requirements of what I was doing before, correct?


    So then in the programing of the I gyro, I still will only pick up one half of the wing for aileron A with one servi and the other half on aileron B on another. Because in the transmitter there are 4 channels allocated for ailerons, will the two channels that are not allocated in the Igyro, just follow along with the gyro corrections because they assigned in the transmitter, or do they still need to be inputted into the Igyro programing, if so how?


    Thanks again for your assistance.

    AKB

    I have an existing airframe that was working on an Futaba Sbus installation. I am using Non Sbus servos and are transforming them to the Sbus system with SBD-1's. The wings have two servos per control surface.

    When working with this install it works fine with a

    - single rudder servo plugged into the SBD-1 then into the rudder input of the Igyro SRS

    - two elevator servos plugged into another SBD-1 then into the elevator input of the Igyro SRS.


    Now when I plug the one wing 1/2 with two ailerons into another SBD-1 then into either port Aileron input A or B no aileron control. When I disconnect one of these ailerons from the SBD-1 and to direct into the Igyro Aileron input, then change the setting on the Igyro to Dig out off I get aileron control, but no rudder or elevator control. Also if I power the Igyro down and power back up again, it resets back to Dig out to on again.


    Can understand if the servos on the SBD-1's will not work on the Ailerons, but does work on the elevators on the SBD-1, I don't understand?


    Anyways Richard what is my work around here. Will only Sbus servos work with two servos per aileron? If so where does the second aileron get plugged into? Is there another setting I should be using on the Igyro to make this installation work?


    Thanks

    AKB

    Hi Rudi

    I gave on the Blue tooth connection to rescue my Igyro SRS. I used my USB connection and the Power Box Terminal V2 on my PC for making the rescue. It worked right away and now my Igyro has the version 28 installed and the screen is working properly. I know this doesn't help with the development of the Blue Tooth version that you are working on, but I think it might be saying there is a possible bug or something that is impairing that part of that part of it's operability.


    Thanks for your efforts in this anyways.

    HI Rudi

    Not getting very far with the rescue mode. I successfully get into the programing of it, answer the question saying I want to continue, but it seems to lock up or stall saying it is preparing and no sign of it proceeding from there. Waited a substantial amount of minutes and it never moves the progress indicator. Tried about 3 times now.

    Thanks

    HI Rudi

    Yes it was my fault I was not in the PC Mode, I did the upgrade and every thing went very well and was continuous, no stalls on the upgrade.


    I do have another situation that happened. Since I was starting to upgrade all my Power box products, I decided to upgrade my Igyro next. I used a 4.8v battery to power up the Futaba 7008 receiver, had my 18mz on at the time, brought up the device and had the blue tooth confirmed and the upgrade to V.28 was proceeding until it got to 95% complete. I don't know if my 4.8v battery went dead or what but the green light went out on the 7008 and I thought the battery was depleted so I stopped the upgrade at that time and recharged the battery.


    When I hooked everything back up again the Igyro had nothing on the screen. The 7008 had power as the light was on, but I have had not been able to get anything on the Igyro screen, since I had been upgrading before. When looking on the iPhone it shows that there is blue tooth connection to the device, but then eventually gives a message saying that the device is not connected.


    Has a fault occurred because the upgrade was not completed the battery died and now has lost all memory of the Igyro. Don't understand it. I can see that the one led is lit on the sensor switch, but pressing the set switch on the sensor switch does not want to turn on the Igyro. Disconnecting the sensor switch does not bring life to the Igyro screen either.


    In smelling the Igyro it doesn't smell burnt or that the magical smoke of the system has been let out.


    Any ideas on this one Rudi.


    Thanks

    AKB

    Hi Rudolf

    I have just acquired the Blue tooth adapter and have downloaded the app. It is at this point the 3.16. When hooked up to my iPhone 8+ and I am getting the confirmation of the Blue tooth icon in the right bottom corner in blue color. When I go to click on the Mercury SRS device I get nothing. I have tried several times and nothing. For an experiment, I tried just clicking on the other device just to the right of the Mercury and that device started to boot up. I quickly stopped that so that there would be no downloading of that device on to my Mercury.

    Not sure what to do, do you have any suggestions.


    Thanks

    I guess ship all components to you. Also if it can be fixed by you will I lose all my programming in the process. This willl take a lot of time as this is significantly complex airplane. Can the programming be saved at all?


    Thanks

    Hi Richard

    I was charging one of the internal balance batteries in my airplane today. The battery circuit shorted and smoked. The output leads to the battery were still attached to the power box. After attaching completely different external batteries, I am not getting any functioning out of the Power box royal, doesn't seem to want to power up at all. No lighting of the LED's on the switch either. Has the short carried through the wiring and cause damage to the Royal. I don't think that there is a reset switch or fuse that is user available that can reset this is there.

    I am assuming that this will need to be sent in and the loss of the summer flying season, unless I can get it back before all your national holidays happen.

    Oh and by the way I have no clue what my version is or the soft ware version as it can't be powered up to read the display. So I just put some numbers in there to get the post started.


    Thanks

    AKB

    Hi Richard

    Yes I got my Powerboxes backwards but unforturantley that wasn't the answer I was looking for. Is it a waste to go with SB recievers when using the full capabilities of the the Powerbox or I guess this would be the only was way to get an SRS connection from a receiver to the Powerbox. The only thing that I can think of in using the SB receiver when using the telemetry and having a direct line out from the Sbus 2.


    Thanks

    AKB

    HI Richard

    My question is this. In working with the SB system of Futaba I have always used the Powerbox SRS systems in the following way. I make a single connection from each receiver (if I am using two) to RX1 and RX2 inputs on the powerbox inputs. Then I make single wire connections from each servo back into the inputs of the Powerbox. So am I not wasting the design of the a SB system, where I would run out one line from the receiver and using a series of hubs making my connections that way. If I am doing it that way I am not getting the benefits of the signal amplification and servo isolation ( on the case of a servo failure) . What is the point of me using an SB receiver in this way with the Powerbox, where I am not eliminating any wiring and using the same old NON SB wiring systems. I have run the Power Bus system on the Royal and the Competition and this really does eliminate multiple runs of wiring. Am I using the Mercury wring system wrong by using multiple wires to each input and servo. I don't think I can run one line out of the Powerbox and use Sbus wiring methods off of that, right. Other than SRS system is there a point to using an SB receiver in this case.


    Thanks

    AKB

    Hi Richard

    Just wondering how often you pick up your mail. Canada Post has said that

    my Mercury SRS (in for service) has been sitting on hold at your Post

    Office for the last week. Is this correct or do you have it ?


    Thanks

    Alan